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    <p><b>In Memoriam Patrick Chabal (1951-2014): An interview with Malyn Newitt (King’s College London)</b></p>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>

    <p><b>Philip J. Havik*</b> e <b>Malyn Newitt</b>**</p>

    <p>*Instituto de Higiene e Medicina Tropical, Rua da Junqueira 100, 1349-008 Lisboa, Portugal, <a href="mailto:philip.havik@gmail.com">philip.havik@gmail.com</a></p>
    <p>**King’s College London Strand, London WC2R 2LS, Reino Unido, <a href="mailto:malynnewit@gmail.com">malynnewit@gmail.com</a></p>

    <p>&nbsp;</p>

    <p>Philip J. Havik: When did you first meet Patrick? When he
joined King’s College as a lecturer in Politics and Modern History of Lusophone
Africa in 1984? Or earlier? What was your first impression?</p>

    <p>Malyn Newitt: I did not have any major contact with
Patrick until around 1996. Professor Helder Macedo, the Camões Professor of
Portuguese at King’s College London, had completed the negotiations with a
number of Portuguese financial institutions and foundations for the
establishment of the Charles Boxer Chair in Portuguese History at King’s and
the College was ‘head hunting’ a person to be the first Charles Boxer
professor. John Russell-Wood was approached but eventually declined to move
from the US to London and Patrick decided that I should be approached.</p>

    <p>At the time I was the Deputy Vice
Chancellor of Exeter University and Patrick agreed that, if I would accept the
chair, I could take it up when I completed my work at Exeter in 1998.</p>

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<body><![CDATA[<p>In the mean time I invited Patrick to
accompany an Exeter University team that was working on a TEMPUS project in Uzbekistan. Together we
travelled to Tashkent with an EU
party and took part in various academic meetings and excursions. I have always
assumed that this experience of Islam Karimov’s tyrannical regime helped refine
Patrick’s thinking on the subject of ‘patrimonialism’ and ‘neo-patrimonialism’.</p>

    <p>Before we left for Tashkent, Patrick asked
me what his role would be as he had little knowledge of Central Asian affairs.
I replied that his role would be to ask questions, preferably searching and
difficult questions &#8211; a role I eventually discovered for which he was
ideally suited.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; Was the lectureship a new
position at the time at King’s? Did he quickly settle in at the Department of
Portuguese and Brazilian Studies?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; The lectureship to which
Patrick was appointed in 1984 was one of the so-called ‘new blood’
lectureships, which were being funded in British Universities to provide
academic expertise in neglected areas of study. Patrick’s post was specifically
created to cover the field of Lusophone African literature. He was immediately
able to complement the expertise in the department which, at that time, was
strongest in classical Portuguese literature.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; When he arrived at King’s,
Patrick who was in the early 30s, had already spent some time doing field
research in Lusophone countries in Africa in the 1970s and early 1980s,
including Guinea Bissau. I expect he must have brought a new focus to the study
of Lusophone Africa at King’s, as he did in the field in general?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; The department at King’s had
always been strongly oriented towards the literature and history of
metropolitan Portugal and was associated with such renowned scholars as Edgar
Prestage, Charles Boxer, Luís de Sousa Rebelo and Helder Macedo. From the start
Patrick saw it as his mission to widen the horizons of the department to
encompass the whole Portuguese-speaking world. In this he was aided by the
appointment, soon after his arrival, of David Treece who was an expert in the
literature and music of Brazil. Portugal itself was still only just emerging
from the turmoil of its revolution and had scarcely begun to rethink its place
in the world and to conceptualise the idea of world-wide Lusophone Community
&#8211; an idea that only achieved some maturity with the creation of the CPLP in 1996. So Patrick’s appointment at
King’s, and especially his missionary zeal to promote the Lusophone literature
of Africa, and later the history of the former Portuguese colonies, was ground
breaking not only in academia but also in the wider field of international
affairs.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; He dedicated his first book to
Amílcar Cabral (published in 1983) generally regarded as one of the foremost
African thinkers and politicians. Cabral was very important for the shaping of
perspectives on the nation and the state in Africa, which were voiced by the
new generation of Africanists at the time; what did Patrick’s work add to the
thinking in the 1980s on nationalist movements and revolution in Africa?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; Patrick’s biography of Amílcar
Cabral (first published in 1983 with a new edition in 2002) is still the book
for which he is most widely known. The biography was published ten years after
Cabral’s death, at a time when he was still treated as one of the martyrs in
the cause of African socialism and independence. Patrick was, indeed, a great
admirer of Cabral, as anyone reading the book can easily appreciate, but this
biography moved the discussion of Cabral’s life on from the kind of uncritical
praise that had marked popular works like those of Basil Davidson. Patrick’s
portrait of Cabral was one of an astute politician, a great organizer and a man
who could be disconcertingly ruthless towards those who opposed him. For
example, Patrick gave considerable prominence to the purges (murders?) that followed
the Cassacá Conference in 1964. He also reassessed Cabral’s role as an
intellectual, showing that he was not really a Marxist (although borrowing from
Marxist thinkers) and that his ideas about the need for Africans to rediscover
the trajectory of their history and to combat neo-colonialism were highly
derivative. In his view Cabral was a great communicator, not a great original
thinker. Patrick also discussed the lack of realism that marked Cabral’s
attempt to create a union between Guinea-Bissau and Cape Verde, which came so
badly and so rapidly unstuck in 1980.</p>

    <p>PH
&#8211; His main concern was eminently political and his work focused on the
state in Africa, which constituted the main thread of his teaching
and&nbsp;research. Already in his early publications he demonstrated the need
for a critical assessment of the nationalist movements in Lusophone Africa. How
much do you think his early experiences with Africa influenced his later
work?&nbsp;And how do you look upon his evolution as a thinker on the state and
politics in Lusophone Africa and beyond?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; Studying
the recent history of Guinea-Bissau and Angola was, for Patrick, no end of a
lesson. The gap which he perceived between the rhetoric (not least the rhetoric
of the leftist commentators in the West) and the reality of what was happening
in the countries concerned, undoubtedly stimulated him in his search for a
general understanding of what was happening on the African continent as a
whole. Although best known for his life of Cabral, Patrick came to have a deep
knowledge of Angolan affairs and worked with his student, Nuno Vidal, to
produce a searing critique of the regime of Dos Santos and the MPLA.
It was the nearest Patrick ever came to abandoning his life-long contention
that his mission was to understand and explain, not to pass judgment and say
what ought to be done.</p>

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<body><![CDATA[<p>Patrick
wrote lengthy introductory essays to two collaborative works that he edited, <i>A History of Postcolonial Lusophone Africa</i> (2002) and
<i>Angola, the Weight of History</i> (2007). In
these he discussed at length whether the colonial experience of the five Lusophone
African states placed them apart from other African countries. He identified a
number of possible ways in which this might be the case &#8211; the extreme
authoritarian nature of Portugal’s own regime, the rigidly bureaucratic nature
of the Portuguese colonial state, the systematic organization of the economy on
the basis of forced labour, the lack of any means whereby the views of the
population could be represented, the influence over the&nbsp;<i>longue durée</i>&nbsp;of the creole class and the fact
that, alone of all the European colonies in Africa the mainland Lusophone
states had had to fight for their independence. Taken together, these
characteristics might seem to set the former Portuguese colonies apart.
However, Patrick went on to argue that, after independence, the former
Portuguese colonies, with possible exception of Cape Verde, rapidly settled
into a pattern familiar throughout Africa where the state was controlled by
neo-patrimonial networks which sought to monopolise and consume (by force if
necessary) the resources of the state. The Angola of the MPLA,
particularly after the 1977 massacres, differed from other African one party
states and militarized regimes only in the extreme extent of its violence and
rapacity.</p>

    <p>PH
&#8211; In the ten years it took Patrick to move from lecturer to a full tenure
as professor at King’s, he became a prolific writer. Indeed, he always appeared
to be writing ‘another book’. Did he discuss his ongoing research and book
projects with his colleagues at King’s?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; During the seven years that
Patrick and I were together in the same department, I only remember one
occasion when he gave a formal presentation of his ideas. One of the first
things I did on arrival at King’s was to revive the graduate research seminar
and to get members of the department to describe their work. Patrick presented
the core ideas set out in <i>Africa Works</i>, and it was a very memorable occasion as his oral presentations were as
lucid as his writing. However, I do not remember Patrick discussing his ideas,
in a formal way, on any other occasion and, for some reason, he did not attend,
or contribute to, the seminars on African history organized at SOAS. In private, of course, Patrick was
always willing to discuss his ideas with colleagues or students, and this was
the arena where his influence was most felt.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; On a recent visit to King’s I
noticed how much students enjoyed his classes. How popular was he as a teacher?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; Patrick was a very popular
teacher who had a reputation for taking immense care over marking student work
and responding to their needs. His preferred mode of teaching was the
discussion or seminar for which students had to prepare and he avoided giving
formal lectures whenever possible. Patrick had a great gift for establishing an
intimate rapport with any person with whom he was speaking. This enabled him to
respond to the needs of students in a way that other professors were seldom
able to do. On the other hand he was very selective in accepting the role of
supervisor of postgraduate or doctoral students. He was only willing to act as
supervisor for those he found sympathetic to his general view of African
affairs. This led to some very fruitful academic partnerships and
collaborations, but also to his rejecting some applications.</p>

    <p>Patrick taught an undergraduate course at
King’s called “Themes in the Study of Contemporary Africa”. This course was
very challenging for many students as it was focused on ideas, interpretations
and concepts, not on easily learned narratives and facts. Challenging as it
was, this course was highly valued and stimulated the students to produce work
beyond their normal capabilities. Sadly Patrick died half way through the
academic year and I was recruited (at three days’ notice) to fill the gap. I
found a student group who were committed, interested and already thoroughly
conversant with the central concepts of ‘Chabalism’. Only a remarkable teacher
could have achieved this at a time when he was already terminally ill.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; He also served for more than
ten years as Head of the Department of Portuguese and Brazilian Studies. It’s
common knowledge that such a responsibility &#8211; which is often looked upon
as a burden &#8211; usually requires particular skills, above all a capacity
for making tough decisions and sometimes enemies. How in your opinion did he
fare in the job?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; The Department of Portuguese
and Brazilian Studies was very small by contemporary standards and there were
never more than ten teachers and 60 or 70 students. In these circumstances
Patrick’s style as head of department was very informal. Although there were
formal departmental meetings and the bureaucratic requirements of the College
were met, Patrick preferred to deal with all questions through informal
discussion, often on a one to one basis. Many of the responsibilities were
devolved to colleagues &#8211; for example the organization of student
placements in Portugal or Brazil &#8211; and the day to day administration was
carried on by the departmental secretary. Patrick himself was seldom present in
College more than two days a week &#8211; a regime that enabled him to maintain
his remarkable output of scholarship &#8211; but he was one of the few people I
have known who would reply to an e-mail usually within minutes of receiving it.
Patrick could certainly be ruthless if it was necessary but the goodwill in the
department, his trust in his colleagues and his consensual style meant that
ruthlessness was seldom required.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; Besides a teacher and writer,
he was also very active in networks of African Studies.&nbsp;In the early 1990s
he was one of the driving forces behind the founding of the AEGIS network, which has since taken on a key
role as a forum for African Studies in Europe. How would you rate that
achievement?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; Patrick’s role in AEGIS was one of which he was proud. As a Frenchman,
specializing in Lusophone Africa, he always felt he had a mission to broaden
the horizons of insular Brits. The study of African affairs, he felt, reflected
the old partition of Africa itself. French scholars seldom trespassed into
Anglophone Africa, while Anglophone scholars notoriously seldom cast a glance
towards Francophone Africa. Both countries vied with each other in their
neglect of Lusophone Africa. An organization that would bring together scholars
of different academic traditions and make them listen to each other was
therefore very important to Patrick’s perception of his academic mission.
Patrick also thought that it was important for researchers in the social
sciences and humanities to communicate more effectively with each other, and this
became one of the central ideas that characterized his writing. AEGIS was to be the forum where
cross-disciplinary and cross-national communication would be realized.</p>

    ]]></body>
<body><![CDATA[<p>PH &#8211; He was always a great advocate
of an interdisciplinary approach within academia. Indeed, in his own work it is
quite clear that he considered inter-disciplinary research an essential part of
epistemology and methodology in studying societies and states in Africa, but
also at the level of academic cooperation, collaborations and research projects
in different countries and academic institutes. Would you agree that his
pursuit of these ideas had a profound and lasting impact on African Studies?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; Patrick was a tireless exponent
of the idea that the frontiers of academic disciplines should be as permeable
as the frontiers of so many of the African countries that he studied. All his
writings, and not least his last book <i>The End of Conceit</i>, are based on the intellectual conviction
that the social sciences cannot make any sense of human affairs without
studying and understanding culture. In his own writing Patrick moved easily
between literature, history and politics and he became the scourge of a certain
kind of social scientist who assumed that society could be understood and
engineered in disregard of the prevailing culture of its people. To many people
reading Patrick’s work today this may seem only too obvious and it is easy to
forget the degree of academic apartheid that kept the disciplines separate
during much of the 1970s and 1980s.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; In a recent tribute to his
work, some colleagues referred to him as the ‘unelected dean of African
Studies’? Do you think that compliment accurately reflects his legacy?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; No, I think this title is quite
inappropriate. Patrick’s work is much admired and many Africanists have
followed his lead in reassessing almost every aspect of Africa’s post-colonial
history, but Patrick never aspired to be the sort of ‘authority’ figure implied
by the title of ‘dean’. Indeed, any suggestion that his ideas should become a
kind of orthodoxy would have appalled him. Patrick was essentially a rebel and
an iconoclast, challenging existing orthodoxies not establishing new ones, and
his books will always pre-eminently appeal to people who distrust the
narratives spun by the ‘establishment’, whether this is the establishment of
the World Bank/IMF or the establishment of African studies
departments in academia.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; Some of his books like ‘<i>Africa Works: Disorder as Political
Instrument</i>’
became standard references in African Studies; indeed it is virtually
impossible to write an article or chapter on the politics and society in Africa
without mentioning his work. But he also, importantly, countered the trend
towards ‘Afro-pessimism’ which is still very popular in and beyond academic
circles. His ‘Africa: the politics and suffering and smiling’ took the issue
further by introducing the reader to people’s daily lives &#8211; rather than
the world of the ruling ‘elites’ which dominates much of the writing on the
continent. Would you characterise him as an Afro-optimist who changed people’s
minds?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; <i>Africa Works</i>, is undoubtedly Patrick’s most influential
book. Even today, nearly twenty years after it was first published, it is
arresting in its originality and penetration. In this book Patrick (and his
co-author Jean-Pascal Daloz) point to the fact that those features of the
current state of Africa which are the despair of development economists and
welfare NGOs &#8211; such as witchcraft beliefs,
political corruption, violence, ethnic cleansing, lack of investment,
inequality &#8211; are all highly rational from an African perspective. It is
not that Africans do not behave rationally, it is that their rationality
differs from that of the West. And he argues that this African rationality is,
at every point, embedded in the prevailing culture of ‘patrimonialism’ or
‘neo-patrimonialism’.</p>

    <p>It is no exaggeration to say that <i>Africa Works</i> changed fundamentally the way that
Africanists had to view their subject. As such it was profoundly unsettling to
many people who had invested their whole careers in alternative narratives of
African affairs. As Patrick pointed out, up to that time, African studies had
been dominated by academics whose careers had been built on endlessly
revisiting the evils of colonial rule and who either shied away from looking at
the post-colonial chaos on the continent altogether, or who were content to
continue, as the decades went by, to blame this on colonial rule or even more
remotely on the slave trade. Patrick believed that this approach to African
affairs, founded as it was on a sense of guilt, was profoundly unhelpful
because it removed African agency from the equation. For Patrick, Africans were
not helpless victims of their past, any more than the Chinese or Indians or
Koreans or other people who had suffered from colonial depredations, slavery
and forced labour. Instead Africans were very much in control of events and
this had to be understood. Violence, underdevelopment, corruption and the rest
prevailed because Africans had learned that this paid better than the
prescriptions of Western economists.</p>

    <p>Patrick once told me that he had been
invited by the UK Department for International Development
to join a panel of experts to review Britain’s development policies in Africa.
He had turned down the invitation on the grounds that his mission was not to
tell people what to do but to explain to them what was happening in Africa.
This is exactly what <i>Africa Works</i> does. It explains, it does not offer solutions. Indeed it challenges the
whole notion that there can be such things as ‘solutions’.</p>

    <p>PH &#8211; In his last book ‘<i>The End of Conceit: Western Rationality
After Postcolonialism</i>’ he shifts his gaze to issues that go far beyond the limits of African
Studies, producing a broad critique on ‘Western’ thinking. The very positive
reception of the book shows that he was seen to expand upon current thinking on
an issue which has been in the forefront of debate in the social sciences since
Said’s Orientalism. How relevant do you consider his message regarding
‘thinking beyond theory’ for a reassessment of the ‘South’?</p>

    <p>MN &#8211; The <i>End of Conceit</i> is very much the swan song of a great
scholar and writer. In it Patrick brings together the main themes of his
earlier writings but instead of using them to explain African affairs he
employs them in a critique of what he calls “Western rationality”. This book,
like all his others, is written very lucidly and his arguments are set out
clearly, and blessedly without the use of any of the jargon which so often mars
academic writing on politics, society and literary criticism. However, it seems
to me that this is not a ground-breaking book in the way that so many of his
earlier works have been. It can be read with great profit and it is full of
interesting ideas and probing questions, but any regular reader of, for
example, the <i>Guardian</i> newspaper will be familiar with the ethical and policy dilemmas which
Patrick identifies as challenging Western rationality. Patrick has in his
sights a <i>certain kind</i> of Western rationality, and one which he thinks informs the policies of
the World Bank and IMF, but whether one can move from this
narrow focus to an assumption that there is a single ‘Western rationality’ that
is in crisis is much more doubtful.</p>

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<body><![CDATA[<p>There never has been a single ‘Western
rationality’ and it is the very pluralism of Western thought and rationality
which has always been the intellectual and cultural strength of the ‘West’.
Many of the issues Patrick examines at length in the book, for example the
adherence of Muslims in the West to the <i>umma</i>, are very familiar in European history in
the way that Western law and intellectual culture has had to adapt to the
belief of Jews and Catholics that they had multiple identities and loyalties.
Moreover much of the discussion of the question of individual freedom, which
Patrick identifies as critical in the West today, had already exercised
thinkers like Mill two hundred years ago.</p>

    <p>Patrick has always advocated ‘thinking
beyond theory’ and the necessity to think in cultural terms, but, it seems to
me that is what those concerned with human affairs (academics, politicians,
writers and, yes, officials of the World Bank) are already doing. <i>The End of Conceit</i> will be an influential book not because
it is unlocking a closed door but because it is pushing at a door that is
already opening.</p>

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